Thoughts of the next few years...
Aug. 14th, 2004 12:36 amBen Folds Five - [Army]--- You know what i find cute? That people don't give a fuck about politics, or really pay attention to or research the "Issues," as they're so fond of calling them. Health care, social security, cloning, abortion, all kinds of shit simply goes out the fucking window, with the most of the reasearch or investigation, by the public, being "What's on CNN/Fox News/CNBC/HeadLine News, today?" Picking up a paper, and reading the articles, sure, but not checking the articles, not researching the individuals involved, for as many perspectives as possible, on whatever situation. Certain times i can understand that.
German Military - [Ich Hatte Einen Kamerad]--- If you're of a deontological bent, meaning that you think certain things are right, or wrong, no matter the consequences, or potential benefits, then i can see not giving a shit about back story, or circumstances, or any of that. But i have a problem with strict deontology, anyway, in that "Diary of Anne Frank" kind of way. Think about that, you'll get it. If not, you can ask. Anyway, if that's the way you're going about it, fine, but don't read anything, then, other than to know who did what. Ok. Even then there's other researches to be done, because not every report is 100% accurate. That's a damned fact, these days. (Carmina Burana - [Estuans Interius]). So i find it funny, still, when people blindly trust the news, or whatever they see or read. Like i said, cute.
Some of you have hated the last four years with a flaming passion, and some of you have thought them the golden age of America. No need to identify yourselves as sitting in either camp; these ballots are annonymous. (VNV Nation - [Darkangel (Apocalyptic Mix by Das Ich)]). The ones in the middle, who didn't care, or have too extreme an opinion, either way, you're here too. I simply want to say that, no matter what you felt of the last four years, do you really think the next four will be that different? The names upon and the people holding the signs will change, the signs, themselves, will not. Economic squabbles, debates on guns, birth control, lobbying for this that and the other. Numbers will rise, in one camp, fall in the other, equilibrium will be maintained. Which is kind of sad, when you really stop to think about it. People complaining, and moaning, and voting, or doing nothing, and still wanting things to change. Because they take a few days out of the year, to vote, or otherwise throw their opinions into the political ether, they expect a change.
Crüxshadows - [Purgatory]--- Or they don't. Some don't think it'll ever get better. No matter what we do, or say, it won't really change. I'd like to say that, if you think that, i don't ever want to hear your voice, read your words, or see your hands move in sign complaining about or extolling the virtues of anything, ever again. (Bruce McCulloch - [Baby Jesus]). Let's make that clear, right now. If you don't think it can or will ever change, then shut the fuck up, stay home, and stare at a grey wall. If you say that you don't like grey, then i will hit you in the mouth, and ask who gave you permission to have preferences. (Wümpscüt - [Die In Winter]). No change makes it all equal. Are we clear? Good. Now let's move on.
If you're still here, then you probably think that things will change, but slowly, eventually, and that's fine. You're who i wanted to talk to, right now, anyway. I wanted to talk to you, because i want to ask you what the fuck you think you're doing? Are you voting as often as possible? Are you "making your voice heard" (to ape the Politik-Word-Stylings)? Or are you reading the news, forming your opinions, and voting? How much news? All of the news you can get your hands on? Are you planning for what you'd like to see? What you need?
Our system is set up in a manner that allows others to decide what is best for us, because we are lazy, and weak, as a species. No, not as a species... as a cultural outcropping, of our species. As a species we are clever, intelligent, violent, cunning, and nurturing. To a fault. We try to make things easier for each successive generation, and we make them softer, weaker, in another area. No, i'm not suggesting we all become Luddites. I'm saying that we need to make things a tad more difficult, for ourselves. We need to remember what it is to work for something, and produce, not simply consume. We need to become more involved. I would like to see that manifest, in government, as well. Involvement, and not simply handing decissions over. A re-fitting of the process so that the elected officials are arbiters of justice, impassive, mostly objective. (Jack Off Jill - [Don't Wake The Baby]). Facilitators of the decissions of the people. I like that idea. That's what i'm working toward, kind of. But it starts with education and understanding (blah blah blah).
Prodigy - [Fire]--- The next four years aren't going to be some golden age of hope and re-assurance. They are going to be slow work, one way or another. If we don't have a goal, in mind, then it is slow work, for no reason, and we might as all lay down and die, right now. So what do you want, for the next four years?
I'm half-hoping for World Peace, myself. And All That That Implies.
{1.12am:Ass Ponys - [Little Bastard]--- http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20040813/lbo040814.gif}
German Military - [Ich Hatte Einen Kamerad]--- If you're of a deontological bent, meaning that you think certain things are right, or wrong, no matter the consequences, or potential benefits, then i can see not giving a shit about back story, or circumstances, or any of that. But i have a problem with strict deontology, anyway, in that "Diary of Anne Frank" kind of way. Think about that, you'll get it. If not, you can ask. Anyway, if that's the way you're going about it, fine, but don't read anything, then, other than to know who did what. Ok. Even then there's other researches to be done, because not every report is 100% accurate. That's a damned fact, these days. (Carmina Burana - [Estuans Interius]). So i find it funny, still, when people blindly trust the news, or whatever they see or read. Like i said, cute.
Some of you have hated the last four years with a flaming passion, and some of you have thought them the golden age of America. No need to identify yourselves as sitting in either camp; these ballots are annonymous. (VNV Nation - [Darkangel (Apocalyptic Mix by Das Ich)]). The ones in the middle, who didn't care, or have too extreme an opinion, either way, you're here too. I simply want to say that, no matter what you felt of the last four years, do you really think the next four will be that different? The names upon and the people holding the signs will change, the signs, themselves, will not. Economic squabbles, debates on guns, birth control, lobbying for this that and the other. Numbers will rise, in one camp, fall in the other, equilibrium will be maintained. Which is kind of sad, when you really stop to think about it. People complaining, and moaning, and voting, or doing nothing, and still wanting things to change. Because they take a few days out of the year, to vote, or otherwise throw their opinions into the political ether, they expect a change.
Crüxshadows - [Purgatory]--- Or they don't. Some don't think it'll ever get better. No matter what we do, or say, it won't really change. I'd like to say that, if you think that, i don't ever want to hear your voice, read your words, or see your hands move in sign complaining about or extolling the virtues of anything, ever again. (Bruce McCulloch - [Baby Jesus]). Let's make that clear, right now. If you don't think it can or will ever change, then shut the fuck up, stay home, and stare at a grey wall. If you say that you don't like grey, then i will hit you in the mouth, and ask who gave you permission to have preferences. (Wümpscüt - [Die In Winter]). No change makes it all equal. Are we clear? Good. Now let's move on.
If you're still here, then you probably think that things will change, but slowly, eventually, and that's fine. You're who i wanted to talk to, right now, anyway. I wanted to talk to you, because i want to ask you what the fuck you think you're doing? Are you voting as often as possible? Are you "making your voice heard" (to ape the Politik-Word-Stylings)? Or are you reading the news, forming your opinions, and voting? How much news? All of the news you can get your hands on? Are you planning for what you'd like to see? What you need?
Our system is set up in a manner that allows others to decide what is best for us, because we are lazy, and weak, as a species. No, not as a species... as a cultural outcropping, of our species. As a species we are clever, intelligent, violent, cunning, and nurturing. To a fault. We try to make things easier for each successive generation, and we make them softer, weaker, in another area. No, i'm not suggesting we all become Luddites. I'm saying that we need to make things a tad more difficult, for ourselves. We need to remember what it is to work for something, and produce, not simply consume. We need to become more involved. I would like to see that manifest, in government, as well. Involvement, and not simply handing decissions over. A re-fitting of the process so that the elected officials are arbiters of justice, impassive, mostly objective. (Jack Off Jill - [Don't Wake The Baby]). Facilitators of the decissions of the people. I like that idea. That's what i'm working toward, kind of. But it starts with education and understanding (blah blah blah).
Prodigy - [Fire]--- The next four years aren't going to be some golden age of hope and re-assurance. They are going to be slow work, one way or another. If we don't have a goal, in mind, then it is slow work, for no reason, and we might as all lay down and die, right now. So what do you want, for the next four years?
I'm half-hoping for World Peace, myself. And All That That Implies.
{1.12am:Ass Ponys - [Little Bastard]--- http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20040813/lbo040814.gif}
Re: Ignore the last reply i made. Forgot about Anne Frank.
Date: 2004-08-14 05:04 pm (UTC)I remember the episode and that's what i said. As of now, Humans do not possess the ability to practice the degree of sense and logic and respect needed to be "more peaceful". That will only come about when a vast number of us are dead. The more dead people you have, the cleare the hindsight of the survivors.
Re: Ignore the last reply i made. Forgot about Anne Frank.
Another example, also used to show the difference, is the Commandant example. Death camp. Commandant walks up to you, with a baby, and says "Kill this baby, or i will kill 2500 other people." What do you do? Your action or inaction has CONSEQUENCES. The Commandant has made himself an arm of Your Will, therefore, what you do or don't do directly effects what he does or doesn't do. Cause and Effect.
Just like the universe in which we live, for the most part.