Adversarial Logic Test:

[wolven7]

Placebo - [Post Blue]--- Standardize this simple proposition: No magicians are not non-self-absorbed assholes.

Comments

[hametsunosaturn.livejournal.com]

No magicians are self-absorbed assholes?

Magicians are not self-absorbed assholes?

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Trick question! It's an invalid form!

"SOME Magicians are not non-..." or "Some Magicians are Non-..."

Hence the antagonism.

*massive allergy attack all day long*

[hametsunosaturn.livejournal.com]

Apparently, I'm too sickly to play your games, mister.

Re: *massive allergy attack all day long*

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Everyone's feeling under the weather, today :\

[kitsuchan.livejournal.com]

"All magicians are non-self-absorbed assholes." is how I would translate it. "No Xs are not Y" means that there is no X that is not Y, so any X would be a Y.

This is not the *only* answer, but if works if you set "non-self-absorbed asshole" as a *type* of asshole, instead of a negative. Their assholishness does not spring from self-absorption. Perhaps they are just socially awkward, or have Tourette's, or perhaps assholishness is a requirement for the job, and when they aren't acting in the capacity of magician, they are rather nice people.

wait..

[kitsuchan.livejournal.com]

Actually, Tourette's would necessarily make one an asshole, given that it's vocal tics. I still think the rest of my point stands.

[moonandserpent.livejournal.com]

All magicians are on the internets!

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Correct!

[bluesummers.livejournal.com]

Right, like the guy in the five thousand dollar suit is not gonna be a non-self-absorbed asshole!

Come on!