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wolven7What follows may not be your cuppa. It's about Hell, and what we want to do, in the world, these days. Continue at your own whatever.
Katzenjammer Kabarett - [End]--- Was watching some crap, on the Hitler Channel, tonight, about Hell, and it kind of hit me: there is no balance in the depiction. None. Milton and Gaiman came the closest, talking about the power and want for something better, something more, some kind of Justice, but there are several thousand years of Hell being the "Bad Guys." That's some hard shit to overcome.
Do you understand what it is to want the best, to strive for free choice, and to do your job too well? Do it so well you get kicked right the fuck out of your home and your office? That's the kind of thing I'm talking about here. To get "reprimanded" for doing your fucking job, to the T. Of course there's going to be spite, there; of course there's going to be hatred. There will be the want and the will to get things done by any means necessary, and justify those means by the way of your ends. That temptation is there, always.
But I say that it's a new day. I say that the path matters, that our way of walking, our way of talking has an impact on the scope and shape of our destination. (Curve - [Missing Link]). I say that we can learn Better. Balancing the darkness and the light in that dynamic dance, forever. Anticipating the ramifications of our actions. And what more could we want?
I say that Hell, too, can Evolve, can adapt, grow, purposefully change.
We-- all of us-- are building the future, every day, and we need all the help we can get.
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Katzenjammer Kabarett - [End]--- Was watching some crap, on the Hitler Channel, tonight, about Hell, and it kind of hit me: there is no balance in the depiction. None. Milton and Gaiman came the closest, talking about the power and want for something better, something more, some kind of Justice, but there are several thousand years of Hell being the "Bad Guys." That's some hard shit to overcome.
Do you understand what it is to want the best, to strive for free choice, and to do your job too well? Do it so well you get kicked right the fuck out of your home and your office? That's the kind of thing I'm talking about here. To get "reprimanded" for doing your fucking job, to the T. Of course there's going to be spite, there; of course there's going to be hatred. There will be the want and the will to get things done by any means necessary, and justify those means by the way of your ends. That temptation is there, always.
But I say that it's a new day. I say that the path matters, that our way of walking, our way of talking has an impact on the scope and shape of our destination. (Curve - [Missing Link]). I say that we can learn Better. Balancing the darkness and the light in that dynamic dance, forever. Anticipating the ramifications of our actions. And what more could we want?
I say that Hell, too, can Evolve, can adapt, grow, purposefully change.
We-- all of us-- are building the future, every day, and we need all the help we can get.
Join the team. We Are L3gi0n.
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Date: 2006-03-06 05:48 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-03-06 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-03-06 05:54 am (UTC)Perhaps someone should organize a PR blitz, and buy some time on the Hitler channel, or at least make a well placed donation to NPR and PBS.
Besides. Take a lesson from of all people P. Athonny's hell. Hell as vacation spot, hell as tourist trap, hell as a FUN place with LOTS of the BEST company.
As I say "I'm glad I'm going to hell, the company is so much more entertaining."
2,000+ years of Bad Press
This isn't just a vacation. It's a WORKING vacation.
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Date: 2006-03-06 05:58 am (UTC)Re: 2,000+ years of Bad Press
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Date: 2006-03-06 06:00 am (UTC)Re: 2,000+ years of Bad Press
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Date: 2006-03-06 07:03 am (UTC)There's a day when this'd had me ready to go and pick fights with the universe, out of spite...Maybe I'm getting old, but now it just makes me a bit melancholy, because I don't feel I have that kind of...resolve.
Dear, help me kick my own ass, would you? I sound like an emo kid.
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Date: 2006-03-06 07:06 am (UTC)The basic premise was that as the angel of fire he was first born, and all things were born of his form. Crafted of fire, everything is under his dominion. As things get less basic and more specific they become less important and less powerful. The angel of rocksalt is less relevant than the angel of all sound. This continued until the first of the material organisms. Which rose in relevance as they became more complex. Eventually being more important than the least of the angels. This continued until man was deemed more important than the angel of fire, from whom all are made. And his resistance to this sent him from heaven and union with divine order. Now he plans to destroy humanity and all the world to prove that they are still lesser than him and subject to his actions.
-sam
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Date: 2006-03-06 07:07 am (UTC)In the beginning there was Nothing and then that potential moved. Spoke.
Let there be light! and I was.
The first born. The first true love between creator and creation.
The LightBringer, the Angel of Fire. Melek Ta'us, Samael, Lucifer!
But nothing is forever.
They tell me I am cast out. Inside out.
The angel of fire is now the shadow beyond. The lightbringer is now a prince of darkness.
That I fell from grace for pride.
Is it pride to say that the Creator is greater than his Creation?
All matter is forged in the stars, all form held together with sunlight. Fire.
Forged of Me, My form. Man is built of Me, his divine spark is MY illumination!
The sacrilege was not mine. I never fought the creator. Man is carved of me, to say that he is greater than I is for the created to eclipse the creator.
No! I said. Never!
MY true love was not sullied. I stood for order, righteousness!
And lost. Fell.
I ask you, is there anything more bitter?
Betrayed by my love.
But then, Let it be so!
Cast out? Inside Out!
Now this fire inside will consume you.
Pride, envy, wrath, sloth, greed, lust, gluttony.
These are my words now. All that was built shall be brought low.
When the world is covered in flame, I will Rise again.
Defy me? Man, you cannot defy me. You ARE Me. MY Army!
And when my terrible work is done and all the world is ashes.
Then know, my creator, my Lover, that it was your will and not mine that was done.
-sam
October 2001.
Light Bringer (Revised)
Arcing Light of so-called "Holy Power"
Diffusing Might, ending in a funeral bower
Lost of hope with his path, here-chosen
Painéd rage feels like fire frozen
And I can't feel my wings
I feel so far from the love and warmth, once known
With the sounds of beating wings
The symbols of the powers he had shown.
Lost in words and without guidance
Cost of herds of life must be my penance.
I've done nothing to deserve this fall
Doing what you said, I went outside the wall.
And you have changed my wings
This dark colour, dif'rent from the light I'd known
Now Raven-Black, my wings
Bringing me to something never shown.
What once was Samael
Tutor to Azrael
Unable to confer
Was then known as Lucifer.
And Now I feel my wings
More powerful than anything I've known
With the sounds of spreading wings
I recollect all the lessons I've been shown...
All the lives that I have known...
And the ways that I have...
Grown.
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Date: 2006-03-06 04:39 pm (UTC)I totally didn't remember this one.
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Date: 2006-03-06 05:57 pm (UTC)no subject
"Evil" is simply bad PR.
And I don't go in for that "Jilted Lover" shite, in the connotations it most holds. I the sense that there was "pure total love" and it was broken? Sure. But that was not his fault. Again: Only doing the job he was meant to do.
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Date: 2006-03-06 06:04 pm (UTC)melek ta'us is one of my favourite, and lucifer of course isnt evil.
*shruggs* the names are just place markers for locations really.....
but i always find it frustrating when the place markers dont make sense. Arhiman is another great example. Which is logically the source of the ridiculous image that made it into the modern mind. ha-satan is the accuser, and is older than zarathrustra's ahriman. But the accuser isnt evil, its just his job to point out the logical inconsistancies in gods plan. Test them and see if they hold up. Ahriman is written in to be evil, trying to destroy the world, no reasons for it and no logic behind it. So I built a mixed version of ahriman and the angel of fire.
hell on the other hand is something else to me. The secrets of the hidden lands beneath the stairwell are the ones that let us rise to heaven. The lightning bolt might be the path that the making took, but for us, or those in hell, its the thunderbolt that is most important. The thunderbolt lines the path back to the heavens. Without a mastery of hell, anyone who rises simply falls back again. Those fixated on the heavens are trapped between, and those trapped in hell are at least one step closer.
so its not really surprising noone wants to sympathise with you denizens, if they were capable of it, they would BE you.
Good luck with the black stone.
-sam
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Date: 2006-03-06 07:59 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-03-06 12:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Eventually, I got so mad at the crap-- the wrong experts, the not talking about the evolution of Hell, within its context, the continually Judeo-Christian-Human point of view, with a little of the ancient Egyptian or Greek-- that I was yelling at the TV, and had to change the channel.
Why doesn't anyone ever think: What does hell mean to those who live there? To those who know and love it? C.S. Lewis asked that (Scewtape Letters) and it worked pretty well. Still biased, sure, but a start.
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Date: 2006-03-06 04:13 pm (UTC)no subject