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Madness - [Shame and Scandal]--- Yes, I know that's two Mision Impossible references, in one week; get over it.

You have a job to do. This is not a meme, though you should treat it as one, and I need you to tag way more than Five People. Here's the deal: The other day [livejournal.com profile] wacko1138 made a post in which I was reminded rather forcibly about the tack we've neglected, in the "War on Christmas": The logical track.

Screamin' Jay Hawkins - [Person to Person]--- I need you to tell everyone you know, if they try to say they're offened by "Happy Holidays," that you think it's weird for them to be offended by you telling them to enjoy their holy day of choice. (Tom Waits - [Crossroads]). Can you do that for me? Good. We're not done yet.

If you give a shit, in any way shape or form, about people not being morons and not creating devisive problems, then post this combination of words in your journal bits of Choice: "Happy Holidays. Happy. Holy. Days."

Tom Waits - [Carnival]--- Do us all a favour, while you're at it. Be as forceful as they would be. A simple answer, and a "If you disagree with this, then you're obviously a Moron." Facts and etymology.

Ego Likeness - [The Breach]----Dreams were of zombies, helping people move, family dinners, a baby T-Rex that [livejournal.com profile] mech_angel tamed, just by being there, a concert that was also a circus, and people trying to kill me. Ended with people playing videogames that could litterally suck you in, if you weren't careful. Something about being turned into a merperson.

Anyway. That's as political as i'm getting, this Holy Day season. Any more attention to the matter and I just feel like a moron. And talking about Bill O'Riley, even to make fun of his insanity and idiocy, makes me feel dirty.

I need to go find food. Ta.

No, see, 'cause

Date: 2005-12-16 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
MY holy day is VALID, because unlike those others mine has ME believing in it. Saying "Happy Holidays" is like you're trying to get me to accept validity of OTHER, non-mine days as holy days. If you have any respect for me and for WHAT'S RIGHT, you'll keep track of what I believe in (shouldn't be too hard, since it's THE ONE TRUTH) and you'll wish me happiness in the name of MY holiday.

Bitch.

*blinks* Sorry, what happened? Was I channeling the spirit of Steven Colbert again?

Re: No, see, 'cause

Date: 2005-12-16 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
You must have been.

Anyway, you must be offnded that I call your day Holy. Let's fix that, shall we?

Happy Day of Celebration, Based Upon So Many Other Days Of Celebrtion, Before It, Which Steals Its Patterns and Traditions from All of Them.

Don't make me Jungian Archetypical Historian, up in this piece, 'cause I Will.

Re: No, see, 'cause

Date: 2005-12-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
Maybe we should just start saying "Happy Holiday."
"What, just one?"
"Do you have more than one Holy Day this month?"
"Well...no, but"
"And are you in fact multiple people?"
"Why would I be-"
"That's right, you aren't. So I'm wishing you a happy holiday. Just one for you, like everybody else. Suck it!"


I think the closest anyone comes to a valid anti "Happy Holidays" argument is that if it's all you do it's like referring to someone you see every day as "hey you." If someone takes the time to make clear which holiday they like best, you wish them happiness on their specific holiday, just the way they did at the end of The Nightmare Before Christmas:
Santa: Happy Halloween!
Jack: Merry Christmas!
Mutuality, respect, and time taken to learn about the other. But really, getting angry about being told Happy Holidays is right there with girlfriends getting mad because their boyfriend forgets they like their coffee with two sugars instead of one. You let it slide, if you're any kind of cool at all.
Or you're some sort of elitist who thinks you have the only real holiday. I see a lot more reason to get upset because someone tries to wish you a merry day-what's-not-holy-to-you than to get upset because they didn't conform...

Re: No, see, 'cause

Date: 2005-12-17 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Presactly.

Date: 2005-12-16 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmasfriend.livejournal.com
You've encountered people who had a problem with that phrase? In general. Excluding the semantics. (See above) Lol. I shun the chance meetings that have been forced upon you. It's like a general warm wishes sentiment put into a generic phrase for when you're not going to see people for some time due to a long vacation from school or work over a time for many Holy Days. Gah!!!! Now I'm getting mad. Grrrr.

Date: 2005-12-17 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Good. Now, do something about it. That's what being angry's for.

Date: 2005-12-17 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmasfriend.livejournal.com
Reference former discussions on comments pages. I don't feel like finding them for you. It was along the lines of not having the energy to actively hate long enough to accomplish anything. Subbing in a ghetto middle school 8th grade the last three days before winter break (hehe. I didn't say Christmas Break) is really numbing. Maybe I should vent on sucky students, and I'll be rejuvenated? *blah*

Date: 2005-12-18 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Quite possibly. Either way, should be fun :)

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