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I would really appreciate it, if you didn't try to kill the messenger. Because I will fucking destroy you.

Or just stop giving a damn, and leave you along your merry way.

I've tried to play it nice. I've tried to play it fun, and friendly, and i've tried, sincerely, cleanly, completely to help t he situation, and make a change. But it seems that, in some areas, none of it matters. Not a damned bit. Fine.

I'm done being people's scapegoat, because i fucking try.

And you know what's sad? I'm going to try, one more time, one more way, just... because.

What realy astonishes me is that people continue to think i don't care...

Wow...

Date: 2005-04-18 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Feh. Let other people's dealings be their own if they're trying to drag you into it in a bad way after you try to be helpful.

*hands you a washcloth*

Date: 2005-04-18 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
My help is often perceived as malice... Maybe it's the presentation.

But i don't know, for sure. Even when people talk to me, they don't seem to be telling me the whole of it...

Minceunderstandings

Date: 2005-04-18 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
My whole of it is typically pretty simple. I do my best not to hide things from anyone who asks.
I'm reminded of Art of Noise, though. "Debussy knew that a work of art, or an effort to create beauty, would always be regarded, by some, as a personal attack."
And your way is even more offensive than mere art. You're looking to create beauty IN people.
And until it's not anymore, all of that ugly and that stupid and that closed and that hateful is part of who that person is, and to try to free them of it is to attack their being. Some people don't have faith that the core of their being is a good thing. Some think if you successfully strip all the bad away there will be nothing left of them.
So some people will resist any attempt to better the world. Like that large percentage of the country that will not vote for a president who comes across as "too smart." It's something like .2%, who actually claim that as their reasoning.
Anyway. Too tired right now to make better sense. Going to sleep.

Re: Minceunderstandings

Date: 2005-04-18 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
As i just said to [livejournal.com profile] scamort: "i'm not the easiest person to get close too... I pull you close and light you on fire, in the same motion. Because i want you to be strong. But i Tell you what i'm doing, and what i am, and it's not my fucking fault, if you don't listen."

I don't want "better," as in "good, happy light." I want Better, as in More Completely Them. Whole, with all the flaws and cracks that that implies.

On a lighter note: http://www.ninjatune.net/videos/video.php?type=qt&id=22

Re: Minceunderstandings

Date: 2005-04-18 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
Until it's been cleared up, they're going to think the fragmentation's a part of them too. One of mom's biggest issues in laying on hands is getting the person to give up the 'helpless sick person' self-image. Many people don't want to, which makes it tricky for her to make them Whole.
As for the video, grazi. That made my day, or at least my lunch-break. But seeing it, I now want to see a "Badly-drawn-kitty Fractal." Deviant art, if it ever exists, I'm sure.

Re: Minceunderstandings

Date: 2005-04-19 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
The cracks are part of the whole.

And yes.

It's a metaphor.

Date: 2005-04-19 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
Sure, a person has cracks in personality that are part of the whole. I was writing about my archetypally cracked personality just yesterday: Old Zeke. And that is one thing.
The pointing to mom was simile speech. Sicknesses aren't part of the people they visit, except in that "part of your timestream" way. People misinterpret their illnesses as personal failings or as parts of their bodies, and once they do there is subdued resentment aimed at any and all doctors.
Now, I'm assuming you aren't saying that all cracks, including people's choices not to pay attention to people who try to help them even when they're capable of understanding things, are forever parts of their whole selves. Because then there'd be no reason to do anything; you wouldn't be trying to do anything to/with/for people. The metaphorical cracks of which I speak are tagRef[Thing you're trying to fix by burning at people].
I was just reminding you that people may feel resentment toward an attempt to help, in whatever capacity a person wishes to help, if the helpee has misinterpreted the sickness/crack/kipple as a part of his/her/its own Self.
They may even cling to that very misinterpretation. People can be disturbingly complicated, that way.

Off to work.

Re: It's a metaphor.

Date: 2005-04-19 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I know. And it's along the timesttraem that the cracks are. And the key, here, is understanding and Choice. On a long enough timeline, everyone is everything, but i agree with John Lennon, who told us to imagine a few things...

Have fun at work.

Date: 2005-04-18 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsumari.livejournal.com
in the words of a silly band...
"deep ya wanna go deep? I'll take ya deep. Ya know ya fucked up when ya let my mind creep. Deeper than a page of a book, take a look. Ya let me hit the stage now I got ya folks hooked."

Maybe this helps you ignore the BS for a minute. I hope so.

Date: 2005-04-18 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Heheh. Thank you, for that...

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