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Cold is trying to migrate. I'm still kicking the shit out of it, because it's still twitching. When it stops moving, i'll stop kicking. Maybe.

In other news, another one bites the dust.

Why don't you people like to talk about things? Is this really just your "Blowing off Steam" place? Am i totally harshing your buzz, when i go on giant tirades about [meta]physics, and shit like that? I'm kind of tired of feeling like three or four of us are having a conversation that the rest of you are watching, uncomprehending. If that's the case, fucking ask... I'm more than happy to give background, or clarify. I don't like excluding people, or leaving people out.

I'm here because i want more people. Was going to say something, after that, but that's what it boils down to, really. More people to understand, more people with whom to stand, more people with whom to converse, connect, etc. So, no, i don't want you to go away, if you don't feel like that's happening. I want you to tell me, and we'll fix it.

I need more people.

{11.55pmYou could experience a nice new friendship with somebody today, WOLVEN. Maybe you will be working with someone on a project. The two of you could be thrown together for long hours. The creative energy between you could be strong, and you'll have a good time collaborating with them. After the work is done, you might realize that you share a lot of common ground. Have a drink and raise a toast to this new friendship.

Funny. Here's hoping.}

Date: 2005-01-25 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okkitten.livejournal.com
I'm here. As always. You know that.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, i do. And i appreciate it, too.

Do you have any idea how weird it feels to not want to be worshiped and adored, but to want to be heard and understood? Why is it so easy to get the one, but not the other?

Date: 2005-01-25 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okkitten.livejournal.com
I know. And I appreciate the return of such.

Hmm, me who gets gifts and shrines but overall spends most of my time alone? No I have no idea. /sarcasm. It's easy because they can worship without thought. Understanding means they have to switch their brains on.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
>_< I know. I just needed to hear/read/see it, outside.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-hinzelmann.livejournal.com
Who died and made you the overlord of live journal?

Date: 2005-01-25 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Someone had to take the job. Because no one else would.

Just like a lot of other jobs, that way.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-hinzelmann.livejournal.com
I call shenanigans on you then. Horrible Moosey Shenanigans! In fact, I horrble mossey shenanigans with dreams of robot sheep.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah. Those robot sheep ate my astroturf. :\

And they dissappeared in a puff of logic

Date: 2005-01-25 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-hinzelmann.livejournal.com
Suddenly, from over the rainbow, a wardrobe falls on you, out of which leap a lion, the last daughters of eve, and Alice chasing a rabbit with a pocketwatch. Suddenly your combat boots are taken by a miget with a glowing ring and Christian Slater hands you a coffee mug of hull cleaner. You reel for a moment until John John Dillenger beats you the horn of the last unicorn and Corso harrasses you about the Anjou wine. finally, as mescaline takes hold and the sky fills with bats, Spinal Tap turns the amps to eleven and the illustrated man hands you a lightening rod. And, as you lay there screaming, "[In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming]" you realize that the wardrobe is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside and you die in a horrible mixed metaphor that no one understands!

Re: And they dissappeared in a puff of logic

Date: 2005-01-25 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
And then the Nothing devoured the Child-Like Empress, and Bastion woke up screaming. Again.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Maybe they're intimidated, love. I know at your most meandering rant-y, I have to skim, get the point, then return and digest all of it, before I can make my brain respond properly.

But I wonder the same thing, sometimes, when one or two people respond to things I think are important, or in the case of writing, something Good I did.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
It..... I never know how to respond to the idea that i intimidate people, when i don't mean to...

Fuck.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bakeneko.livejournal.com
But I wonder the same thing, sometimes, when one or two people respond to things I think are important, or in the case of writing, something Good I did.

I've had this feeling too sometimes. . . but then I've done that to other people when they said something meaningful or good. Sometimes you just don't know what to say.

Date: 2005-01-25 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Hm. No response. Ironic, innit?

Date: 2005-01-25 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bakeneko.livejournal.com
I think for a lot of us, it's that livejournal just isn't the forum we want to have that kind of conversation in. . . maybe it sounds really bad or lazy, but for a lot of people (me included) livejournal is sort of a way to emotionally unwind and amuse ourselves, while finding out what events of major significance have been happening in our friends lives. A lot of my life and interactions require great amounts of energy investment. Livejournal, well, I just refuse to invest that much energy into it.
Talking about spirituality and metaphysics and such, for some, is an everyday occurence. For others, it's a rare and/or private thing, or they just don't like public online discussions about that sort of thing. It's just a matter of personality. It doesn't mean that the second type of people are any less enlightened or aware, or that they don't care what you think. It's just not our bag. You, who claim individuality as such a high virtue, surely realize that, right?
As for me, I don't feel left out. I just look at certain posts that people make, decide it's not a conversation I want to participate in, and move on. It's ok, really it is.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, i realise it, and appreciate it. But it's strange that nothing seems to strike a chord, a lot of the time.

And i know that it's ok for some (like you), but when it's not ok, it tends to... slightly irk. It's... I guess it's just somehting that's been getting to me, lately. I feel like i'm talking to to the wind, in the non-productive way, or preaching to the choir, because no one else has shown up.

So, part of me thinks, maybe i should stop preaching. I dunno. I like conversation.

Date: 2005-01-25 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bakeneko.livejournal.com
Conversation's good. Concerned, individual questions often get better responses than ultimatums, though. . .
I guess it depends on whether you are writing to get responses, or writing in your journal because you like writing. Either way is ok, really. Just figure out what you most want out of it. . .
For example, me, I want to show off my vast array of icons :3

Date: 2005-01-25 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yes, i seem to have noticed. :)

And my questions are always concerned, just not so always individual. Except in interpretation...

I dunno. I want everything out of everything, yo.

Date: 2005-01-25 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribeofone.livejournal.com
Gee, and I just write for myself. To get better at writing as that is one of the current issues that exisit in business. I figure the more I can practice the better I can get. Business majors don't write a lot of papers. I had gotten out of the habit of writing. I write what I am thinking as an exercise to see the patterns in my own thoughts. I also beleave that shared pain and shared joys help to make us a better people, and threw that a better society. Just think of Callahan's crosstime salon. (http://www.spiderrobinson.com/books.htm) just in case. I also write when something crawls into my brain and starts eating away peices of it, lifes little problems and things said to me that echo clearly at times... that, and well you know the ego masturbatory self indulgence that we all get from this type of media.

Date: 2005-01-25 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I don't think that writing to write is a Bad thing, or that using this to blow off steam is a bad thing, i just want to know, so i know where i stand, in all of this. That kind of thing. Because that's not the only reason i'm talking, here; i want to know things, hear things, do things. From with to others. Et cetera.

The question then being which do we seek to indulge, more?

Date: 2005-01-25 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribeofone.livejournal.com
depends on our mood at the time. One day soon you and I wil sit and have a long dicussion on metaphysics, I have felt it brewing for a while... I just prefer to do them over coffee some place where we can be left alone when the kids get bored or scared at the thoughts being put into words, that and that is how most of the ones I have had have happened it is a habit and I may be "out of the closet," but you have to remeber the impact that the last thousand years of persecution has had, I still don't tell most people what I am a priest of, I just misdirect the question and keep talking... it is a safety thing, I learned the hard way.

Date: 2005-01-25 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Safety... people tried to tell me that, once, and i tended to show why My safety wasn't the one in question.

Date: 2005-01-26 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribeofone.livejournal.com
By safety I mean an uninterupted conversation, where we can establish a base of conceptual concepts and then move forward.

Nena - [99 Luftballoons]

Date: 2005-01-26 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Ah. Well i can do that almost anywhere. I guess it does come down to not having too many intreruptions.

Re: Nena - [99 Luftballoons]

Date: 2005-01-26 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribeofone.livejournal.com
I also suspect that we will spend more time on the establishing a base from which to work than any other part. Location is not as important as head space and coffee.

Re: Nena - [99 Luftballoons]

Date: 2005-01-26 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
So the key concern, then, is Coffee.

Date: 2005-01-25 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
Usually what I do with your posts is skim, then read properly if something jumps out at me as something I need to look at closer. Then I usually need to let it stew in my brain with everything else. My replies, though rare, are when the ideas and such have all cooked together properly and left me with something to share.

I'm like this in person, too.

Date: 2005-01-25 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
And they're apt, even if they're rare. Like most people i know and like, you think about your words, enough to make them mean things (however long that is, for you).

And as long as you're consistent. ;)
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