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In the days when there were many more dense population centres, and scattered people, and the scattered people outnumbered the dense population centres, sure, the electoral college was a great thing, and kept everthing "honest" (read: "as honest as you can get, in politics."). But, now, we're diverse, dispersed, grouped, spread evenly, like a near-perfect peanut butter and honey sandwich. If we informed people better, if we made knwoing the issues a pre-requisite, for voting, if we made voting madataory, if if if... then we could totally do away with the electoral college. But people are fucking lazy, in all the places that matter.

People don't want to be informed, when they can elect someone to be informed for them, they don't want to research, when they can have sound bytes, they don't want to think, when they can simply Not. So... I want people to want to know, think, do. Think of the Children. As i said, i'm re-reading 1984, and it's fucking chilling. "War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength." Doublethink, Newspeak ("Newsweek, nevermind"). It's harsh, but truer and truer. Some of us want to teach, for a reason.

I've a few quotes, in mind: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

"Democracy is the theory that holds that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H.L. Mencken

Things said by people who became famous, because they were smart. Things to keep in mind.

Date: 2004-11-02 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wacko1138.livejournal.com
i've always been very partial to the old "give me liberty or give me death" riff myself, so yeah, know where you're coming from on this one.

and the electoral college helped keep the vote in the hands of the upper class instead of fully trusting that to the hoi poloi (probably misspelled and possibly misused by me), in addition to the practical benefits and necessities.

Date: 2004-11-02 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Not misused, and you only missed one l in "polloi." And yeah, exactly. :\

Date: 2004-11-02 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
I'm groaning and worrying right now. A lot. >_< I keep seeing people saying they voted for the Shrub for reasons that just blow my fucking mind. Because he 'looks kind'. *SCREAMS*

Date: 2004-11-02 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Exactly. And people wonder why i scream, rant, smoke, and hate, so much. Willful fucking ignorance.

Date: 2004-11-02 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
I don't wonder, I understand all too well. Which is why I mostly ignore the world; otherwise I'd be driven into insane incoherence. Being catatonic is not conductive to much of anything.

Date: 2004-11-02 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah. Very True. Trying to find the balance...

A point to make

Date: 2004-11-02 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
I don't want to write it in my own, but...this election is hotly enough contested, there are enough crazies on the anti-bush side, and should he win he will not win by enough that people will not think he stole it. This says one thing to me:
Someone's gonna try to kill that man, if he wins or steals the presidency.
The thought of it worries me.

And yes, the electoral college is shit. If there are seventy million people in the country, I'd like my vote to count, simply, as one seventy-millionth of the final decision. No more, no less.
Well, maybe a bit more...
If Kerry loses, I hope he has the balls to take Bush to court for flat-out lying on the election trail. Slander, and libel. Unjustly attacking reputation. There are LAWS against it, and they should be upheld. Bush actually SAID that Kerry was untrustworthy and that he, Bush, was.
Kerry is not going to. I hope, and I know otherwise. They seem mutually exclusive, but for quantum.
Good night.

Re: A point to make

Date: 2004-11-02 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
It Should worry you. It's a dangerous thing.

I have faith that the post-election litigations will tie up the courts for months to come. Quantum physics are our friends.

Re: A point to make

Date: 2004-11-03 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Yes, yes they are. *pets quanta*

Re: A point to make

Date: 2004-11-03 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Don't forget to feed it and walk it...

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