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Tom Waits - [Metropolitan Glide]--- I was talking, earlier tonight, about why it's a bad idea, for me to set people up with one another. I've directly played matchmaker, in the lives of three sets of my friends, and, each time, it was utterly horrible, toward the end, for all involved. Let's recount, without naming names, shall we?

The first time: Female friend came to me for advice, on a girl that was interested in her. She had never thought about girls, in that way. Was, in fact, a good Catholic girl. I suggested that she give it a try. Due to the ensuing codependent relationship, she went through a three-year period of heavy drug abuse, and pain.

The Smiths - [Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want]--- The second time, five years ago, were two closer frieds, and i knew they were interested in each other, but both were uncertain as to the level of interest, from the other. I facilitated their mutual knowledge, and the resulant relationship, ended in severe mental and emotional trauma, for the both of them. They can, only recently, be in the same room, with each other, without wanting to kill each other.

Smashing Pumpkins - [Bullet With Butterfly Wings]--- The one, after that, was, again, same sort of situation: two people, neither knew of the other's interest, so i catalysed things. At the end, it was emotionally, mentally, and physically abusive (though not much, there), from both parties.

Now, i know what you're saying, here: these weren't my fault. I didn't make these things happen, and i didn't make these people relate to each other, this way. But, in a way, these bits of hell are my responsibility. If i hadn't done anything, sure they may have still happened, or they may not. Either way, these events are now past, and, thusly, the way things "should" have been. (The Dresden Dolls - [Truce]). They all learned something, and so did i. "What you tell me three times is true."

So, when people come to me, siddling around the point, working toward asking me to help hook them up with someone, i tell them these stories. I let them know what and how (to a point; certain events are personal, and i don't share them.), and i let them then decide if they want me involved. This is why my main set of advice, on relationships, is Personal communication, between the concerned parties. Everything else explodes, in my experience.

I think about the fact that, oddly fitting, my own relationships have ended in a quiet, amicable manner. I'm still friends with almost everyone i've ever dated. One exception, and i can understand that.

This thought brought to you, by me mulling over intrepersonal relationships ending, breaking, weaving. Friendships, no problem...

Anyway. I have work, tomorrow, at 11. Good night and Dream Well

Date: 2004-10-26 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Well, that's usually how I decide things...3 tries.

Date: 2004-10-26 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, and you saw one of the above-mentioned, up close and personal-like.

No more for me, thanks.

Date: 2004-10-27 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nazzrose.livejournal.com
I feel the same way. Now I just invite people from one group of friends to go adventuring with me. Such as hoping to take a girl from (what the hell group do you call the people at your party... anywho) and bring her with me to parties I goto thru people who live here in my area... I'm not interested in any of them, and I know some little secrets about them... Damnit girl.... if only she would call me. :p
yeah, so actually conversing on both sides is bad...

then again... you knowledge of people is so tempting to ask about... lol!

Date: 2004-10-27 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I generally refer to anyone around me, for long enough, as part of "The Cabal".

Date: 2004-10-27 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Meh. My take on this; it's not my business and I'm not a dating service. People need to be able to get together on their own, because they're that comfortable with one another, or maybe it's not going to work.

Date: 2004-10-27 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I used to do it, out of wanting to help, be a good friend, see people happy, all that. Fuck that noise. My stance is now Do It Yourself.

Date: 2004-10-27 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilsayermonster.livejournal.com
Well, I thought about it and being the eternal optimist that I am: It could have been alot worse on my end. It can always have been worse. So, in that aspect, maybe you didn't do so bad. Just think of what could have been instead of what was and it makes you feel a little good about what DIDN'T happen.

Date: 2004-10-27 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Very true. Thanks for that...

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