A brief note, on Musical Genre-Typing:

[wolven7]

Stupid emo music. Stupid labeled genre-partitioned music, as a whole. damn the "Music Scene" and all that it stands for, which, these days, seems to be more abotu "fitting in," even within the geeks and freaks, than Making Fucking Music! What the fuck is this, High School?! I hate genre-typing, because creative works are limited further and further, the more labels you put on it, even from the outside, but when we have kids going around and calling themselves "Indie" or "Emo" or "Goth," and only making music to fit that stereotype, and that Uniform, then we have a serious problem in creative limitation.

Yes, certain names and labels allow you to distinguish yourself, and know where you are, but that can be achieved by stating major influences, which can, and hopefully do come from many and diverse places. There are titles and genres and castes placed on everything, in this culture, from dress to music, to movies, and the people allow themselves to be stuffed into the boxes, and, in fact, help with the stuffing. Bitch, that shit ain't Stove Top, so stop swallowing it. It's all bullshit, there...

I vent my wrath at the Emo and Indie cultures, more than others, because that's where i see it the most. Oh i see it in the Goth culture, too, and the Techno culture, and Neuvo-Hippie-Freak Movement, and every other place that there's a label for who you are, and people happily slap it on, and walk around proudly proclaiming how different they are, with their fifty friends, just fucking like them!... but i see the most embracing, in the two, mentioned... More than ever, i just want to grab these children-- all of them, in any subculture-- and scream, loudly, not caring if i'm even coherent, "You're not fucking Different! Stop saying that's what you want, because it isn't! You want to belong and you want to fit in, and you know what? That's Fine, but fucking be honest with yourself about it, and have something in common with each other more than just a gods besotted Uniform!"

Because there are ideas and ideals, and things oyu can learn from people not of your huge little subculture, and as long as you search for people, based on music, or on books, or television shows, or the clothes they wear, you will always be Utterly, consumately, terminally, Alone.

If you don't believe me, go watch or read "High Fidelity." Lloyd Dobbler learns the lesson well.

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<i><Yes, certain names and labels allow you to distinguish yourself, and know where you are, but that can be achieved by stating major influences, which can, and hopefully do come from many and diverse places/i>

*cough* *cough* my black IS blacker

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Well that IS why they made Woollite Dark, you know. *nods*

[momentai.livejournal.com]

So, what triggered the re;ease of this particular harangue on this particular day?

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Was talking about Emo music, allowed myself to get Angry at Emo. Stopped, thought about what i was really angry about, and realised it wasn't simply Emo. Decided to shout it to the rooftops, so i could get it out of my system.

If you look closely, you can see similar themes, here, to much else i've said, vis a vis "Think for yourselves."

[momentai.livejournal.com]

You ask way too much of the general populous. It's a comendable effort, but I am worried you are gonna overheat b4 the home stretch.

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Always something to bring me back, and always something to do. Dig it.

[momentai.livejournal.com]

With a spoon, baby. With a spoon.

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Backhoe gets you there, faster.

[momentai.livejournal.com]

But there more expensive and I would probably need a licesence to operate one.

[wolven.livejournal.com]

True.

Life of Brian

[karishi.livejournal.com]

Saw it with Sparky a few days ago, thought of it again here.
"You're all different! You're all individuals! You all need to think for yourselves!"
"YES! WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT! WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS! WE ALL NEED TO THINK FOR OURSELVES!" "Tell us more, master!"
"No! Listen, that's the point! You don't need to follow me! You don't need to follow anybody!"

Re: Life of Brian

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Exactly. Once again, Monty Python has all the answers. *nods*

[momentai.livejournal.com]

...Emo has aesthetics?

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Yes. Everything has its own aesthetic, which then gets mutated/cheapened into it's "Uniform."

[momentai.livejournal.com]

Must you turn every sarcastic remark of mine into a starting point for another philosophical diatribe?

Yeah, you're good at it, but come on! We get it. You like to read. Let's move on, Hesh, let's move on.

[wolven.livejournal.com]

It was an honest attempt at clarification. Sorry if it annoyed people.

[momentai.livejournal.com]

If by "people", you mean me, than there is nothing to apologize for, as it was just a joke. An apparently not well receiveed joke, but a joke, nonetheless.

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Eh. These things happen..

[unknownbinaries.livejournal.com]

I mentioned I liked the band Thursday and some of the aesthetics and dynamics of Emo music...Discussion started. My fault. ^_^;

[wolven.livejournal.com]

Not your fault.