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Venetian Snares - [Yes Love, My Soul Is Black]--- My regime will be characterised by total governanace, with total availability of opinions and ideas to be free. If you want something changed, change it, have a plan, and show me that everyone affected (meaning everyone) will be ok with it. (Kenna - [Hell Bent]). There will be difference, variety, freedom, and equality. And Yes, pigs will fly. For the children.

I dislike being called a liar. Almost as much as i dislike that, i dislike being called insane, or extremely idealistic. I rather dislike any statement about my personality that comes from a place of judgement. Don't tell me i'm perfect, or awful, or insane, or mistaken, or lying, because, chances are, you don't know what i'm talking about. And if you say it in the middle of my fucking sentences, my statements, then you might as well simply not say anything, at all, because you're not even fucking listening. (Panacea - [VIP Torture]). But you'll expect others to, when you have something to say? What are you, stupid?

This is the universal You, here, people, don't get all uppity. And yeah, i already had words with the inciting factors of this. Ignore-ance. Fuck It, Delete It.

I've spoken, recently, about people sucking; about being upset, and wanting to simply... Start again. Wipe the slates clean, and start again, from scratch, with everyone. I haven't told you why, though, other than the general. But that's really all you get, from me. I don't like to tell other people's business, unless they say i get to. Shit, i ask people before i say their names in regards to things they do in my dreams, about which they may not want people to know. And, for starters, that courtesy has been called into question. That bothers me.

I hate being made to repeat myself. If i'm trying to get a fairly oblique point across, and i have to say it a few different ways, to get people to understand it, then yeah, i get that. (Pop Will Eat Itself - [Underbelly]). These problems are not oblique. They are very fucking plain. Maybe they're strange requests, and maybe they're cock-suckingly hard... Well, "cock-suckingly" isn't a good adverb, there; for some of you that may be easier than it is, for others. My point is that, even if they are strange, and difficult, they are things i ask, out of courtesy. Points of respect, from you to me. Just because you haven't (if you haven't) made mention of the lines you'd rather i not cross, doesn't mean i would not respect them, if you did.

And that simple showing of respect, of any sort, seems to be... slowly, slowly , quickly slipping away, in all of the groups i know. (Nellie McKay - [Suitcase Song]). There are certain levels of comfortability, yes, and places we can go, with each other, and friends can call Shenannigans and Bullshit on each other, for things no one else would ever be able to even mention. That's a given. But there's still respect there... Or, in my mind, there should be...

Things are getting a little bit better and worse, every day, around here. Things are changing, in a mode, and at a pace that's... hard to keep up. (LUXT - [Parasites (N-Vitro Mix)]). Simply feels strange, and grates to the point that, if i don't say something, it simply gets worse and worse. And i'd rather that not happen.

Later

Date: 2004-03-28 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Respect for boundaries IS something that is sorely lacking in people nowadays. I'd love it if someone could tell me why. I mean, shit, I'm a distant bitch if I don't want to tell the gory details of my relationships to a coworker? Or I like my personal space-bubble and don't want someone standing up my ass? No. That's not Right. I mean, is it people trying to make up for an increased trend of alienation in our society, or what?

Meh. *hugs* People suck. But I at least get to call you perfect, right love? ^_^

Thank you.

Date: 2004-03-28 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
There is something that people don't realise, as a difference between Knowing Someone, and Distancing them, by not respecting their wants. If you want to know someone, and are trying to understand them, go at a pace that's amenable to Them. And, hopefully, people will do the same for you.

It is very strange, as that increase in feelings of alienation drives this "need to know people," which makes people invasive, in certain respects, which pushes people away. They get weirded, and they distance. Thus alienating the very people who wanted to get to know them.

As i said, strange Cycle, there, as, if people would let things happen at their own pace, after maybe calmly displaying an interest, and working on being a friend, it might go more smoothly. But that's a base psychology level, that would need to be intricately modified, depending on the person, of course. :)

And yes, love, you can call me perfect, if you really want. But i don't think i am.

Date: 2004-03-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree...respect should always be present...treat others how you'd like to be treated. Some I know have gotten too comfortable with the patterns they have become accustomed to in certain individuals, not taking into account that, yes, in fact, people can change. It's lazy, to be honest. "Getting to know you" lasts a life time, simply because people are not static. But what do I know? I'm just a squweed!
-Elizabeth
p.s. I guess that goes along with listening.

Date: 2004-03-28 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I agree with you, all the way around. Especially about that "Sqweed" thing. *nods*

Yes, "knowing someone," just like "Understanding Things," is a dynamic process, because THINGS CHANGE.

THANK YOU!

Date: 2004-03-29 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
"Yes, "knowing someone," just like "Understanding Things," is a dynamic process, because THINGS CHANGE."

Re: THANK YOU!

Date: 2004-03-29 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Uhmm.. You're... Welcome?

Were you trying to prove this point to someone else, or had you, for some reason been waiting for me to come to this realisation?

Cause i already knew it. :P

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