Lethe?

Feb. 8th, 2004 03:45 am
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Save Ferris - [Everything I Want To Be]--- Forgetting is a difficult proposition. I, honestly, don't like the idea of forgetting things. I like remembering and learning from everything, because i'm a freak like that. But, often, people will say things like "I want to just forget that it ever happened," or similar, and, so often, people drink to forget. But, do you really want to forget, or do you want to remember and not care? Do you want to desensitize yourself to it, and See it as There, but not touching you, anymore, becasue, by god, you beat it?

Carmina Burana - [Floret Silva Nobilis]--- Because, it seems to me that that's what happens, most often, when people drink "to forget;" they get retrospective, and they rant, and they spite the thing that drove them to this place (that place), in the first place. (OhGr - [Kettle]). So, you, out there, the 3rd or fourth, or billionth question of the evening: Why do you drink, if and when you drink?

Or otherwise intoxicate. Enhance, detract, forget, let it go?

Because letting go... you really don't need Dionysus' permission, you know? If you want to, you can. Promise.

Date: 2004-02-08 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
I rarely drink, and when I do, it's to celebrate something and is something expensive and tasty had with a good meal, or it's to have something tasty that will make me giggly and talkative to help me unwind from whatever - which is usually something expensive again because I'm an alcohol snob.

But it's always something worth drinking, drank slowly and with food, and around people/situations that put me in a good mood.

It's never to forget. Holes in my memory frighten me, and remembering and not caring only comes with time.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Fair enough. Also, i think that the "Not caring," garnered through alcohol, is a false sense... It's spiteful, and fleeting...

Date: 2004-02-08 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Hmm...I don't think I've ever tried to forget with alcohol.

That is to say, if I have, I've forgotten why. In which case, I suppose I must've done a bang-up job.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
LOL. Exactly. There's my OTHER problem with it: What if you forget what you were trying to forget, and you end up remembering It, but not that you were trying to forget it, and then you STILL fee like shit? Then you're Screwed.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Exactly.


Maybe I drank six Guinesses at once...BRILLIANT!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Alcohol poisoning?! BRILLIANT!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Cirrhosis. Of. The liver.










BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Maybe this is why "Drinking Responsibly is Brilliant!"...

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Yes, quite...but we're not drunk.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Has that stopped us from spreading insanity, before?



The word you're looking for, is "No."

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmn-rdr-caoimhe.livejournal.com
Always one step ahead...BRILLIANT!!!!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Ending this thread?! BRILLIANT!!!!!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-02-08 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Never to forget. Maybe to distance, to dull the shite a little. Sometimes to give me some time off from my head, when the headmeats get too loud.

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Date: 2004-02-08 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Fair enough. Thank you.

Date: 2004-02-08 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsuchan.livejournal.com
I don't drink. And while it would be nice to forget painful things for a day or two, until you have time to remember them and be hurt, I think it's more the letting go that I want to do, and messing with my brain wouldn't help that much. Especially not in the long run. Also, it has been demonstrated to me quite handily that drinking doesn't really help much.

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Date: 2004-02-08 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, it definately doesn't work, long term, and if you use it to do so, then you're running away. Thanks for the answer.

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Date: 2004-02-09 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsuchan.livejournal.com
*has just returned from the anime club Evangelion marathon* I will not reun away, I will not run away, I will not run away... yaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!




...Sorry, couldn't resist.

Date: 2004-02-08 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djedhi.livejournal.com
I drink to get high. Alcohol is a weird drug...I've never drank for a reason just about "hey there's a party let's drink" alright. I haven't thought about anything to forget yet so I guess I'm in the clear for a while.

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Date: 2004-02-08 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
So to alter/enhance a state, then. Ok. Thank you.

Date: 2004-02-08 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentai.livejournal.com
I don't drink and don't intend to, ever. I try to forget that which bothers me by systematically reliving in it in as much detail as possible until I become angry with myselves for thinking about it and until I am bored with the thought. The boredom allows me to put it aside and the anger gives me s/t else to think about. By the time I am thru beating myselves back down b/c of the anger, I don't care one way or another about what was troubling me.

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Date: 2004-02-08 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Fair enough.
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