Conceptual systems are useful tools.
Feb. 16th, 2012 02:41 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
wolven7I am so goddamned tired, these days, you just don't understand. I work 6 days a week, minimum, sometimes 12 hours a day. My days are chopped up in such a way that if I'm not sleeping, eating, or showering, i am working.
The other day, I had to prep for class, in the bathroom, because I didn't have any other time. Yes, really.
By the time I get home, on the long days, it's all I can do to remain upright, let alone class prep.
I have two tests and their study sheets to write, one essay for which I have to determine the format and content, short reposnse papers to grade, and lectures to prep.
I am tired all the time.
I'm thinking of taking up a B-Vitamin habit. Just start jamming myself so full of ground-up supplements as to turn myself into some kind of Alchemical reactor wherein i synthesize and process my own NZT.
Anyway. Over on Twitter, I asked the following question: "What's the model of Post-Scarcity/Post-Industrialization interaction? Because post-scarcity doesn't NECESSITATE post-industrialization nor does post-industrialization necessitate post-scarcity (think Production Collapse); but we tend to think of them as Linked, don't we?"
The heart of my question is, "What is the model by which we can plot the relationship of No-Longer-Having-A-Lack-Of-Resources to The-Industrialized-Means-of-Production-of-Goods?" How do we get to where we have all of what we need, if not via industry? Replicators? Matter-Recombination? People build and make and fabricate... Post-Scarcity isn't as simple as "Oh Now We Don't Need Things Anymore," so how do we actually get there? What does "getting there" look like?
One answer that was given was to think of it as a hyperbolic curve, with Scarcity of Goods being a Function of Industrialization. This is useful as it allows us to see the relationship in a correlative manner.
But i'm also willing to concede that I may be begging that question: That maybe there is no direct correlation between Post-Industry and Post-Scarcity.
Talk to me. Give me some other models and ideas. Point me at some articles.
I'm going the fuck to bed.
The other day, I had to prep for class, in the bathroom, because I didn't have any other time. Yes, really.
By the time I get home, on the long days, it's all I can do to remain upright, let alone class prep.
I have two tests and their study sheets to write, one essay for which I have to determine the format and content, short reposnse papers to grade, and lectures to prep.
I am tired all the time.
I'm thinking of taking up a B-Vitamin habit. Just start jamming myself so full of ground-up supplements as to turn myself into some kind of Alchemical reactor wherein i synthesize and process my own NZT.
Anyway. Over on Twitter, I asked the following question: "What's the model of Post-Scarcity/Post-Industrialization interaction? Because post-scarcity doesn't NECESSITATE post-industrialization nor does post-industrialization necessitate post-scarcity (think Production Collapse); but we tend to think of them as Linked, don't we?"
The heart of my question is, "What is the model by which we can plot the relationship of No-Longer-Having-A-Lack-Of-Resources to The-Industrialized-Means-of-Production-of-Goods?" How do we get to where we have all of what we need, if not via industry? Replicators? Matter-Recombination? People build and make and fabricate... Post-Scarcity isn't as simple as "Oh Now We Don't Need Things Anymore," so how do we actually get there? What does "getting there" look like?
One answer that was given was to think of it as a hyperbolic curve, with Scarcity of Goods being a Function of Industrialization. This is useful as it allows us to see the relationship in a correlative manner.
But i'm also willing to concede that I may be begging that question: That maybe there is no direct correlation between Post-Industry and Post-Scarcity.
Talk to me. Give me some other models and ideas. Point me at some articles.
I'm going the fuck to bed.
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Date: 2012-02-20 05:58 pm (UTC)Second stage, analytic network of needs, wants, supplies, and resources. Would have to be buy-in to avoid communist compulsion (and support the network), but the whole "bulk pricing" thing does apply here and could get it down to pennies per membership. [Sideline: Credit system and financial planning targetted at destroying poverty?] Would need trust values and feedback.
Third stage, integration using the information collected during second stage. Include transportation and work in the overall cost of an item. VERY DIFFICULT to attain third stage, innumerable data collected in expert intelligence without the experts in question being aware of it; similar opacity for what we do (ask someone what they're good at, and they might forget singing when listing talents), need, or want, and a complete lack of awareness of infrastructures creating what we currently have.
Some level of categorization created for joint needs/joint wants, publicly owned resources, personal talents...
...
And poof, we have a second-layer government, albeit entirely voluntary. I really didn't expect to end up here, but there we go.
Actually, I really like the idea of a "wish granting" site, but I dread the effort it would take to monitor.
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Date: 2012-02-21 04:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-02-21 08:19 pm (UTC)Hokay, here's what I have:
Network that may superficially resemble social media.
You have your profile, a list of goods and services you can provide, and the same for what you want. And links to people to whom you choose to link.
Your links can I) Make their overall trust rating (I'd assume 1-5 stars) for you, (can be viewed either overall, your connections, or possibly through different group tags you choose to create)
II) A "quality of..." rating (also 1-5, and probably commentary) for each of the things you say you can provide (Jeanelle's bread is AWESOME), (same possibility of filtered weights; "white breads", for example, would not like Jeanelle's bread)
III) Suggest things you can provide (have you considered modeling?)
IV) View your wants (filtered by you; I'm not letting the world at large know I want a sealskin rug).
The tricky bits there are drugs, sex, and
rock and rollhow various governments would view an unmonitored marked (whether or not it includes drugs, sex, and/or pirated rock and roll CDs).no subject
Date: 2012-02-22 05:17 pm (UTC)As the "If I was a poor black kid" article points out (indirectly, by accident), if my system doesn't include advocates, it would only exacerbate the resource divide by way of technology.
Wait, potential fix by building the advocate into the system: One of the possible uses I had mentioned was "group goals". So the system's prime goal would be to provide access to the system to all people. People could "vote up" group goals, but prime would always top the list.
Next up, figuring how to mediate incompatible (and, in some cases, contradictory) goals. If one goal is to convert the world to Islam, and another wants to convert the world to Atheism... yeah.
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Date: 2012-02-22 05:19 pm (UTC)dt, and I should throw this model up on my own page. I hope this braindump was interesting for you, at least, even if it didn't point directly at your question.no subject
Date: 2012-02-25 11:32 pm (UTC)