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N.A.S.A. - [Spacious Thoughts (feat Tom Waits & Kool Keith)]--- I've been thinking a lot about a lot, lately, but the thing that keeps coming up for me is the fact of the interconnected nature of the way we conceive space travel and human reproductive entitlement.

Hold on, bear with me.

Capitalism as an economic and political doctrine is unsustainable, on a basically physical level. It is the commerce equivalent of perpetual motion, requiring constant growth and expansion to remain viable in the face of all the people who are supposed to have unregulated access to goods and self-correcting market forces. If capitalism is to work, then there must always be More.

Needless to say, there will not always be more. There will not always be more space, there will not always be more raw materials, there will not always be enough, let alone more than enough. (Man Man - [Skin Tension]). This should seem obvious, but it isn't. It won't be to many people. Fine. We won't talk about this, but let's back up and talk about something else: There are a lot of people on this planet, and there will be more, and this planet is a Finite shape and space. Yes that's pretty much what I already said, but phrased differently, but do you see what I'm saying? I'm saying that, if we want the expansionist model of capitalism as it exists to continue (do we?), then Space Travel is pretty much the only way it happens.

Coil - [In Memory of the Truth]--- We only have enough room for all of the humans we have if we spread out into space. We can only find the resources we have to sustain all of the humans we have, if we spread out into space. If and only if we continue to go further and farther into space, can we continue to be good little capitalist pigdogs.

Deadsy - [Sleepy Hollow]--- If we don't do it, we either scale back the human species, or nature does it for us. If we do it, we survive, maybe even evolve and thrive for space-based life. And we get the added benefit of exploring the cosmos, learning about the nature of our perception of reality, and possibly encountering aliens.

How is this not fucking obvious?

Date: 2011-08-17 10:23 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-17 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, but you both already believe in space travel.

How it's not fucking obvious

Date: 2011-08-17 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonathankorman.livejournal.com
They cannot conceive of human action being powerful enough to affect the vastness of the world. But to paraphrase Stewart Brand, we are now as gods and had better get good at it right quick.

Re: How it's not fucking obvious

Date: 2011-08-17 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Exactly that.

Date: 2011-08-18 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
*grumble* If we could only fucking program people to understand that reproduction is nowhere near the sacred fucking cow it was before there were seven billion monkeys on the planet.

Date: 2011-08-18 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
That would also be pretty fantastic. I kind of doubt it'll happen, that easily, though, as most of them have religious backing for an evolutionary urge. I think it'll take... Well, it'll take a major event to make that change.

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