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Nine Inch Nails - [The Becoming]--- Today I'm thinking about the conjunction of Tulpas and Doors.

Specifically, I'm asking myself what is it that we actually do we do when we create a persona, an avatar of ourselves, and then send it out into a place-- a created field of interconnected contexts-- for us? We are engaged, at that point, in bounding, shaping, and emphasizing particular components of ourselves, to be seen by and to engage with a particular set of different people, in different ways. (David Bowie - [Seven Years in Tibet]). We reshape ourselves, consciously or un-, to better adapt to the task at hand.

When we open a door, when we step into a mutually created space, we are accessing the collective construct that all who have gone before us have had a hand in accessing and creating, and by so doing we shape and are shaped by this construct. We add to the concept even as we're constrained by and limited by it, but when we seek to create a radical inversion of the place as it has formally been created, we have to ride a tight line of doing so in such a way as it recognisable to others as communication/communitarian engagement with space, while simultaneously rifitting and undermining the structures as they exist.

Tool - [Forty Six & 2]--- The problem with this is that the only thing we have with which to do that, is the structure itself. And so we must radically deconstruct and reconstitute the process of languange and communication and the co-created structures of agreed-upon conceptual apparatus, such as "Self" and "Place," in order that we may effect radical, beneficial change in perspective and what we see as potential.

Because the hip-bone's connected to the leg-bone.

Date: 2011-02-13 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is really a nice summation of our conversation yesterday - which was phenomenal (I've said it before and I will say it again). I will add that one thing which the model (as you have presented it at least) doesn't really address is the way in which the structure itself determines the goals which one wishes to pursue and the directions in which one wishes to go. I tend to think changes in a system has to do with alterations from the dynamics within it - if the system is language broadly conceived.

Date: 2011-02-14 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I think that that's a good way of looking at it. But so far as how the structure constrains the field from which we can draw goals and the way in which we can express our ideas, I think that comes from the architecture of language and communication being the only way in which we are able to express concepts.

As we wrap our concepts up in language we forget/miss that the structure frames the mode of expression, and that mode then perpetuates the frame.

I think that without an attempt to use the structure against itself-- to invert the process of the appropriation and application of meaning-- we end up letting the architecture of language completely rule us. :)

Date: 2011-02-14 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raidingparty.livejournal.com
Odd concept Saturday morning, I couldn't specifically remember it. I was in a lucid state, and think I could have induced your image, but I assumed that would have been cheating.

Date: 2011-02-15 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Only if calling me on the phone to get in touch with me is "cheating." If i'm busy, I'll let you know.

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