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Science. Don't talk to me for five hours about what you "know. Full stop." and then do a condescending head-bow the the fact that science is probibalistic, and that we never know anything. Don't you fucking do it. There always exists a chance that you Are Wrong. Quantum mechanical forces have an odd way odf doing things you generally don't fucking expect them to do, and that goes double for when consciouness is focused on them:

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

Read it. Read the whole fucking thing. Then ask yourself what happened.

This is a way-too-angry start to my day...

Have some other, more humourous anger:


Date: 2008-02-20 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendori.livejournal.com
As much as Kant disliked Hume in terms of causality, I very much agree with both of them on some points.

1) we can never actually know a causal link to be the truth
2) we can never actually know the thing in of itself
3) as such, since we can never know 1 or 2, it becomes very hard to know anything.
4) however, we are beings wired to think about the world in terms of knowing it.
5) without causal links or knowing, the world makes no sense to us on daily basis.
Therefore) its ok to operate as IF we knew causal links or things in of themselves, because if we didnt wed go crazy. But we can never actually know them because we cant. We just have to deal with that knowing and accept it.

Date: 2008-02-20 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Precisely, but if we don't acknowledge it, and arrogantly claim to "know" anything other than the existence of a personal Observer (to throw some Descartes into the mix), we're going to Get A Lot Wrong.

Date: 2008-02-21 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pallandrome.livejournal.com
Don't be too bummed out, pear may be closing, but the staff is largely moving to the ICRL.

http://www.icrl.org/history.php

Date: 2008-02-21 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's been a year and ten days, since PEAR shut down. I know they're heading to ICRL, but it doesn't carry the same weight as Princeton, you know? I mean, it's ridiculous that the appeal to authority does what it does, but...

It does what it does... :\

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