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Dreams of people I don't actually know, in classes I don't actually have, such as a strange combination of art, forensics, religious studies, and magic. [livejournal.com profile] venacava and someone who was a combination of [livejournal.com profile] the_spirit_room and [livejournal.com profile] sanx doing a fashion photography course, in with all the rest of it. Something about a three-lobed clock, with numbers hat meant something other than what numbers mean.

Walk outside the room and follow that with the TV show's CSI team on a field trip with children, out in the woods of the Shannendoah valley (anyone know why that particular park? Anyone?), getting lurred into houses of farmers, escaping, and me almost walking into a creek, becasue my night vision wasn't as good as it should have been, becasue I couldn't stop seeing the house lights...

Slept pretty well, last night, all things considered. Only woke up once more than I'd intended, at 8.30-something, and went right back to sleep.

Got a good chunk of writing done, yesterday. It's not perfect, but it's definitely more than I had going. Today I finish a first draft of section three.

Serious question: For the one-hundred and thirty-five of you, out there, what do you think, when the "magic" is used, in a serious context? Honestly. Some of you, I know the general shift of your thoughts, but some of you... Well. You're awful quiet when i talk about certain things.

Let's have a dialogue.

I need a shower.

Date: 2007-10-03 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Was I helpful or did Viva Caligula simply unclog something?

You know how I feel. Come on, other people...

Date: 2007-10-03 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
You helped get me to the point of doing more with the notes I have. Viva Caligula gave me a brief goal to accomplish, in the end. Having done that, I think I was more able to actually make myself do Part A, there.

So both. :)

*beep*

Date: 2007-10-03 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teididh.livejournal.com
what do you think, when the "magic" is used, in a serious context?

As a rule, I think "WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

But in my universe, "serious" is such a relative term, having much in common with it's overtly polar opposite "hilarious."

And 'the "magic" is used' in contexts simultaneously serious, hilarious, and ecstatic.

It's out there.

Date: 2007-10-03 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raidingparty.livejournal.com
But it's not 'in here'.

Someone recently asked why so many Christians felt the need to pray for outside help rather than expecting God to be within them.

My answer for that, and magic, and various other unseens, is that while I can rationally accept the unseen (and even have a good logical defense of magic), I don't feel it. It seems distant to me.

I can think it, but I haven't (to my knowledge) experienced it, and I don't know how to work with it.

Date: 2007-10-04 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentai.livejournal.com
From the little that I have read of you, it seems that when you talk about magic you are trying to redfine magic in such a way that it sounds more respectable to scientists in the hope that these scientists will begin to take you and magic more seriously. Whether or not that's sensible, I feel it would be far more efficient to leave magic where it is and to work within the framework of what science is supposed to be as opposed to trying to force an amalgamation b/t the 2 that will mostly serve to offend, impede, and taint.

Some of your criticism of science in general is valid, but that is mostly due to people. The method itself is just fine and could expplain a lot, given the time and application. As for everything else, it will either remain Unexplainable, and perhaps for a reason, or maybe youyr methods might just prove useful once refined, within a proper context. Overall, I belive in a place for everything, but I don't see your notion of magical science being useful to the world at large, only in contexts you create for it.

I can understand in general, and assume from personal history with you, that this will simply chafe you, but apparently, that can't be helped.

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