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Answer the following question. First responses are key, though I really won't know if you've given me your first. Danger of the medium.

What is perfection?

Date: 2007-08-02 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-apollo.livejournal.com
pursuit of perfection

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Date: 2007-08-02 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paosparti.livejournal.com
reading a Pratchett book to my SO and them enjoying it as much as I do.

New Pratchett book out sept 1st. *squeeeee!* It's probably not good for me how obsessed I am is it?

Date: 2007-08-02 09:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-08-02 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com
Temporary.

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Date: 2007-08-02 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paosparti.livejournal.com
PS. if you don't help the turtle you are as bad a Vorbis and the great god OM will smite you as an infidel.

Date: 2007-08-02 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hametsunosaturn.livejournal.com
I read that subject line and actually thought, "I would have helped the turtle."

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Date: 2007-08-02 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
"I don't know why you don't, but you don't."

Date: 2007-08-02 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hametsunosaturn.livejournal.com
My first response was to grin, actually. Haha.

Just last night or this morning or so I was thinking of the definition of perfection as I know it. I once wrote a one-shot scene of a character of mine (Dmitri) and one of J's who was meant to be a perfect doll brought to life (Remy); the scene was called "perfection" and had to do with how this random lady saw Remy as perfection and how Dmitri saw Remy as perfection.

The lady saw perfect skin and hair and a perfect body, whereas Dmitri saw perfection in his kind eyes and the way Remy held people in his arms and other things like that.

Perfection is not one thing, it's different for everyone. Some people may believe something is perfect if it lacks flaws. Others may say that the lack of flaws is a flaw in and of itself and say that definition of "perfect" is by their definition imperfect. Just like "beauty" or "happiness," "perfection" is unique to you.

The perfect wife, the perfect boyfriend, the perfect sandwich, the perfect day... These are all whatever you most want out of something. Key word being that it's what you want most. And many times, we find that what we imagine is perfect is, in fact, not as perfect as we thought. (Cue Stepford Wives reference, here.) If something can be considered "too perfect" it ceases to be perfect in our eyes.

Sometimes we don't know what perfection is till we see it. You may find a flower on a plant and say, "this is the perfect blossom." You just see it and know it's perfect. You may fall in love with someone and everything goes wonderfully, in your opinion, and that person is the perfect mate, to you. That doesn't mean you never fight or always agree, necessarily, just that they are your version perfection.

I can't fully answer what perfection is to me... because it's much more complex than my words. I'm sure to forget something. Instead, you got this.

Date: 2007-08-02 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Arrange everything, just so: What is it right this second?

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Date: 2007-08-02 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
The rose pudding at the Olde Hansa restaurant in Tallinn, Estonia.

I really can't be sure about anything else.

Date: 2007-08-02 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Hm. That sounds like a very interesting dish.

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Date: 2007-08-02 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raoin.livejournal.com
ring the bells that can still ring
forget your perfect offering
there is a crack in everything
that's how the light gets in

Reminds me of a saying

Date: 2007-08-03 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
From the place where we are right,
no flowers will grow
Like hard earth in winter.

Date: 2007-08-02 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halafax.livejournal.com
Seeing my enemies crushed under my boot heel, the world countries recognizing my ascension to power, and acknowledging my cabinet of select people would supplant the existing governments. Watching as my dreams come to fruition. (btw you have to pick a country, if no one else has claimed it, its yours)

or

A good book, or series of books, some good iced tea (preferably from the tea house at renfest), no time to worry about; just me and the book(s) and some good tunes.


Take your pick

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Date: 2007-08-02 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cailement.livejournal.com
there is no such thing as perfection. There is an ideal of perfection, something that we think of that can be perfect, but in reality there is no way to truly reach that level of idealness. Once we get to what we think would be perfect, there is always Something, small or not, that is wrong with it, somehting we would like to change. So in reality there can be no perfection, merely a striving towards such an ideal.

Date: 2007-08-02 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
The ideal, itself, is real, isn't it?

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Date: 2007-08-02 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis42.livejournal.com
I don't believe in perfection.

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Something similar

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The advertisers got me

Date: 2007-08-03 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
Because of the phraseology, my first thought in response to "What is perfection?" was some kind of underwear and/or cologne ad. With that adspace taking up first-response rights, I'd already gotten too many thoughts in on the topic by the time I recovered from the absurdity of a bra model talking philosophy on TV...
I don't think I can answer in the vein you desire.

The thought-of version of my answer is: As a thing existing, not merely as an ideal resting in objectivo-space, I see perfection as an in-between thing; like the nodes can't be perfect but the strands connecting them can be; Examples are better: The right tool for the job, or the finding of not the perfect person, but the perfect person for you.

Re: The advertisers got me

Date: 2007-08-03 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teididh.livejournal.com
Some would say a bra model who speaks philosophy was perfection.

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What is perfection?

Date: 2007-08-03 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Either stagnation, or balance and dynamism.

Too much for most here. It would blind them.

Both of these thoughts occurred to me simultaneously.

Re: What is perfection?

Date: 2007-08-03 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
I think that's perfect.

Date: 2007-08-03 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thurisazshole.livejournal.com
my first response, the result of your death.

only does one's life lessons get bundled up into the ultimate test, at the end of this path on our journey. picture, perfect.

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Date: 2007-08-03 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pallandrome.livejournal.com
I am perfection.

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Date: 2007-08-03 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misanthropic1.livejournal.com
100% Quality with a capital Q.

Date: 2007-08-03 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Well said.

Date: 2007-08-05 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salrushdy.livejournal.com
flake of snow , atom's structure, flight of bird....infinitive number of samples, but you get the idea

Date: 2007-08-06 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Complexity as perfection. I can get behind that.

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