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The questions: Does anyone out there still truly believe that enough well-informed, well-prepared, dedicated people can change the world? Do you believe that a mixture of cynicism and idealism are needed in order to fully realise anything, at all; to approach something which could be called "realism?"

The Young Gods - [Donnez Les Esprits]--- If the answer is yes, would you bee willing to put hands to preparing those people and yourselves? Would you be willing to inform everyone of everything, no matter how small or seemingly trival?

Respond here.

Yesterday, I had a thought about the nature of what it must mean to be Shaitan (Shai'Halud?): In that capacity, it is to The Adversary. The be the obstacle which must be overcome in order to grow, to change. Anything abd anyone can be Shaitan. (Muse - [Assassin]). All it takes it to stand in opposition. Now, Satan? That's a newer title, that comes with a whole bunch of attendant meanings and implications. But the basic idea's the same: To stand in opposition to the over-balancing majority.

If you want a dynamic balance, you have to take the long view, and realise that, sometimes, some things are going to be more abundant than others. But if it all comes down to a null point (the only true starting place of anything), then the work is done, isn't it?

Venetian Snares - [Dollmaker]--- Some thoughts, today, as I continue the intellectual struggle, as it were.

Please respond to the above questions, if you have a response to give.

Thank you.

Date: 2007-01-21 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thurisazshole.livejournal.com
the answers of me: yes and no. it also needs to have those that are misguided, to be open to the truths and facts presented to them. as you said, balance. too many are against learning anew what they thought they already knew. example - pluto is no longer catelogued as a planet. many people refuse to acknowledge this because for so long it has been the other way around. hell, a cartoon dog was named after it even.

as to whatever it takes, i believe that there are some things that should not be forced down others throats...even if it is education and cold hard facts in some instances. if they choose the route of selective ignorance, then at least they made a decision.

if i were able to adhere to the previous statement, then yes i would be willing to help prepare others. in a way i do, with my path as it is now. although, i do it in a non-invasive manner - some believe that you need to be invasive at times.

you always need an antithesis. it creates an equality of sorts. yin and yang, are always fighting for a balance. even the neutral take a side when everything is boiled down to the singular point.

this null point you strive for - once change first takes place, after each point comes to be, its damned near impossible to go back to null. each and every value is different. has seperate meanings measurments and volumes. you can come close, but rarely can you ever go back to the teet so to speak.

you mentioned dynamic balance - thats about all you really can strive for in the long run because all values are different. its what makes all things as beautiful as they are.

lets just hope you don't have OCD, cause the work would never be done. ever. see? ya missed a spot. :P

Date: 2007-01-22 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's why the dynamic balance is necessary: Because the infinite types of infinity are the closest we're getting to null, ever again.

quote the wayne, "no way!"

Date: 2007-01-22 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadistic-apollo.livejournal.com
"well-informed, well-prepared, dedicated people"

near as I can tell, those well-informed people are doin' everything they can to manage the status quo, or at least manage it so that any eventual changes will be gradual, unnoticable, and in an entirely selfishly beneficial direction. For example, every major ruling party ever.

Change is generally left to potential energy, disenfranchised masses, and a very limited amount of extremely charismatic individuals who provide the shape and the direction for the outlet of the pent up feelings.

it seems that it's individuals, the Kings, Hitlers, Ghandi's and Mandellas, that are constructive with their efforts at implimenting widespread change (for better or worse) and that it's the organizations that get bogged down with too many people tryin to accomplish too much at once, ie the UN, the US gov't, any major businesss.

Re: quote the wayne, "no way!"

Date: 2007-01-22 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Every movement needs a face, sure, and when we find a face for "sweeping educational change," then we'll put that face on posters, and put them in front of an audience.

Until then, we recognise that "a small group of highly dedicated people can change the world," and we try to get people to listen to a change that may take a little while. But hopefully not too long.

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