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Long talks with [livejournal.com profile] mech_angel, in the car. Deeper thoughts on said, to follow. For now, a question, again:

When you say you want something, do you really want it, or do you just think you want it?

Good night.

{Also, call me tomorrow, anyone who wants to. I want to meet, this weekend, and see a lot of people, before the new year starts.}

Date: 2006-12-29 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentai.livejournal.com
It would vary, of course, but for the most part, I'm willing to admit that, I just want to want it.

Date: 2006-12-29 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Thank you for your response.

Date: 2006-12-29 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nausved.livejournal.com
According to my definition of "want", if I think I want it, I do want it. (However, that doesn't mean I'll be happy with it once I have it, or that I don't have mixed feelings about it, or that this want has any kind of permanence.)

But sometimes I say I want something without actually thinking I want it--mostly for conversation's sake or in attempt to convince myself that I want something.

Date: 2006-12-29 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Thanks for the thoughts.

Date: 2006-12-29 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
I agree with nausved. That said, remember that saying you want something sometimes is shorthand for "I want ___ to be happy and thus I agree with what ___ wants"

Meaning, sometimes saying you want something is a way of agreeing with someone elses want and forming a certain comeraderie or just being a good friend.

Then there's wanting something when you aren't fully informed of the ramifications of what will happen should you get it. That's not the same thing as not "really" wanting it, that's just being in the dark.

Kinda like is finding out someone told you something inaccurate the same as finding out they were lying? Of course not, lying is something does to intentionally mislead someone whereas being inaccurate can happen to anyone regardless of intent. Wanting something is when you have an urge, intellectual or otherwise that drives you to seek out something to satisfy that urge. It is not "really" wanting something if you seek out something that leads to that satisfaction but is not directly related? Of course not, it has to do with intent. If my intention is for you to be happy and thus I state what I believe you to want, then my goal (for you to be happy) will be met by you getting whatever you want. It is easier to simply agree with someone elses want, in such a case.

Date: 2006-12-29 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Thank you. A lot to think about, there.

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