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Nirvana - [Floyd the Barber]--- Does it ever seem to anyone else that our political stewardship is being vyed for by a generation of people who ave misinterpreted and misunderstood the intention of Fight Club?

Tori Amos - [Martha's Foolish Ginger]--- Just a thought.

Date: 2006-11-27 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentai.livejournal.com
I guess the answer to that depends on what we both thought the point of said novel/film was.

Date: 2006-11-27 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Good Answer.

Date: 2006-11-27 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilsayermonster.livejournal.com
What was the intention of Fight Club?

Date: 2006-11-27 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Good question. A disconnection from the world and the things in it, to a point of realising that one's possesions do nt own them, but recognising that life and work have a value. That a dissolution of Identity into self-less-ness can be dangerous if not moderated by a strong individual identity.

If you are only "Jack's-Total-Lack-Of-Surprise," then what are you, really?You are a possession of Jack, and you are not you, at all. Allowing Jack (Tyler) to Dissolve you into nothingness, is allowing your possessor to win. You are possessed, and in being possessed by a thing that wishes the removal of all its possessions, you, too, are removed.

Or at the very least made to watch from the sidelines.

This may all seem well and good, but the point of the book and film was not to glorify the removal of property, nor was it to enshrine capitalism. The point, as I saw it, was that if you're not careful with knowing who and what you are, if you allow the things you own to end up owning you (to coin a phrase), then you will be Owned. You will be a thing, and your world will be a mere shell of what it could have been, if you merely owned yourself, and recognised the Facticity (fact-ness) of the situation you are in.

Radical change is not necessary, always, and radical change can do more harm than good, if the revolution is a full one. Because you're just bakc to the beginning.

Date: 2006-11-27 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Or, to be short, illustrating a need for a balance. Chaos and order, grounding and detachment, structure and anarchy. The narrator's growth and change and betterment when faced with Tyler's chaos, and Tyler's need for a limit before he burned everything down.

Self-knowledge, and dynamic balance.

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