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I need a large blunt instrument, that i can name "This IS What George Ramero Is About," So i can break people's legs with it.

To start, if you've never seen a George Ramero film, then you need to stop whatever you're doing, right now, and go watch "Night of the Living Dead," and "Dawn of the Dead." (Tori Amos - [Sweet Dreams]). If you really want to, you can go get "Day of the Dead," "Return of the Living Dead," and the others, but the message is really captured in the First two. "Night" is where it starts, "Dawn" is where it plays out. "Day" kind of runs parallel to "Dawn." Anyway, after you've seen these, i want you to go see the new "Dawn of the Dead." Does the Death of Hope disappoint? Does the new feel untrue to the old? I'll bet no.

The The - [This is the Day]--- The point, here, is that i'm hearing a lot of bitching about the new movie, based on grounds of there's too little hope, or that they didn't like the ending sequence, during the credits. I'm not going to talk about it, directly, as some haven't seen it, yet. What i'm saying is, if you're going to bitch about that, if you're going to not understand that, then you're missing one of the principle reasons the Zombie Movie genre, as a whole, even fucking exists. Zombies work like this: Unless there is some kind of "Cure," or Divine Apocalyptic Battling Intervention, then You Will Die. It is only a matter of when, and how. Zombies only serve to emphasize pre-existing mortality fears. They're slow, there are a lot more of them, than there are of you, and they will keep coming.

Ramero's films were like pictographic essays on nihilism, to sound pretentious, about the whole thing. (Fleming & John - [Delusions of Grandeur]). Just when you think everything's going to be ok, you find out, definatively, that they Won't. The only thing that matters, in a Zombie Movie, is how you fucking carry your life, and whether or not you Give up, try to find a way to fight, or accept that, one way or another, you're going to Die, someday, and live your Life in a way that means something. And you can see that, in the evolution of the characters.

If it's a good Zombie Movie, i mean. (Nellie McKay - [Suitcase Song]). For all that "Resident Evil" was-- an action movie, a video game movie, a pretty good movie, on certain levels-- it was not a Zombie Movie. It was a movie About Zombies. It was more a treatise against man meddling with nature, than any kind of statement on the Human condition. Man V Technology/Nature, rather than Man V Man. That kind of thing... *sigh* And i think that's enough of that.

Joydrop - [Sometimes Wanna Die]--- Simply a list of things i think people should keep in mind, if they plan on seeing the new "Dawn of the Dead."

Thanks.

{10.18pm: Things are getting better, here: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/31936

The last few actually make me smile. :) }

Just so everyone knows..

Date: 2004-03-22 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendori.livejournal.com
This rant is mostly my fault, thanks to showing our dear wolven this thread on Metafilter.
http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/31936

The point being that Dawn of the Dead was in the true spirit of its namesake, and those of us who KNOW this are a minority smaller than the surviors of any Zombie crisis.

Oh yeah, and as for Resident Evil... yes, the zombies are man made... however, keep watching. If they do Two and Three true to the series, then the hope factor will seriously go down the tubes fast. Racoon City is FUCKED.

Re: Just so everyone knows..

Date: 2004-03-22 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Re: ResEvil: This is very true. The Second movie isn't called "Apocalypse," for nothing.

Re: "Dawn": Exactly.

Date: 2004-03-22 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renatus.livejournal.com
... people expected hope in a zombie movie?

*snickersnortlaugh*

Date: 2004-03-22 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
My thoughts exactly. A Zombie Movie, at all, and a remake of a George Ramero Zombie Movie, to boot. Jeebus...

Maybe they'll learn something... Maybe. *shakes head*

Re: Just so everyone knows..

Date: 2004-03-22 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendori.livejournal.com
Let me put it this way... In the end of Res Evil 3 - they NUKE Racoon City. And this doesnt mean the zombie plauge stops. Remember, unlike Dawn of the Dead, the zombies need anything with neurological electricity: squirls, rabbits, snakes, lizards, racoons, dogs, cats, bats, etc. Just because you get the people, doesnt mean you get all the critters.

Zombie chipmunks, anyone?

Re: Just so everyone knows..

Date: 2004-03-22 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yep yep. There were, in fact Zombie Dogs, in all of the games.
From: [identity profile] karishi.livejournal.com
A quote I heard in Creative Writing:
"You heard that Passion of the Christ's ticket sales were finally outsold?"
"Really? By who?" (shoulda been 'by whom,' especially in CW, but whatever)
"Dawn of the Dead. Isn't that great?"
"And fitting. I mean, Jesus had that whole zombie thing going for him..."

What's your professional opinion? Will I be able to enjoy Dawn sufficiently, on video/dvd, or is it set up for the big screen? I don't want to see it before I see others, the ones you've mentioned here especially.
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
You need to see it on the big screen, at least once, because there might not be another way to get the sheer Scope of how many zombies there actually are, and that's important.

And yes, That's why we Yell things like "Sweet Zombie Jesus!"

Date: 2004-03-22 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
I think that lack of hope may be why I never liked zombie flicks...It's not the lack of Optimism there, just a promise for a cyclical continuation of things. I always like when a sequel could be impled because then things seem more real. You knew that life and existence didn't end with the movie.

Date: 2004-03-22 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah, but i'm a fan of the Sartian sub-moral of "You determine the worth of your time, here." Hmm... Yeah.

But the sequels are rarely as good. Heh.

Date: 2004-03-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
Yeah, but I don't MEAN the sequel. I just mean the open-endedness. Because in reality, life continues.

Date: 2004-03-22 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
Yeah. Unless the world ends. Or the atmosphere catches on fire, flinging two super-intelligent apes into the past, where their talking child starts an ape revolution, thus creating the PLANET OFFF THE AAAAPESS!!

That kind of thing.

Date: 2004-03-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownbinaries.livejournal.com
That's Still a continuation, love. Kinda like this reply. ^_^

Date: 2004-03-22 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolven.livejournal.com
And this one. ^_^
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